Dear Libertarian Asshat
Aug. 10th, 2010 08:32 amI keep coming across this argument in various forms:
<i>when the govt. does stoopid stuff to manipulate away from the economics it doesn't like (i.e. requiring mortgage lenders to make bad loans while promising to whitewash them through a federal mortgage bank) and the mortgage banks make billions writing high-risk loans and dumping the risk on the govt. (Countrywide anyone), and then Wall Street builds complicated derivative instruments tied to the generally low-risk investment in home-mortgages (which are very reliable when you require a significant downpayment AND proof of income - which went away in the 90's to make home ownership a dream-come-true for people that couldn't afford to buy homes.....</i>
This one was from a self professed libetarian on a thread on Charlie Stross's blog. The problem with this argument, and my goodness it's pernicious and sticks around is that it's almost 100% wrong in every detail.
They're referring to the CRA loans which were designed to help out people on lower incomes than would otherwise normally get a loan, and those, potentially with spottier credit. This was a big part of Conservative thinking for a while, especially in the UK. Get the poor to buy their home and they'll vote for you. Margaret Thatcher, that great liberal softy, was very big on this.
Anyway, apart from the racist sub-text - the poor people often being non-white, there's a problem with this theory. The CRA loans represented at most about 20% of the total mortgage bundles that got into trouble. And second, the actual, regulated CRA loans didn't get into trouble at all. In fact they generally have a better repayment rate than the already low default rate of the traditional market. You don't believe me? Google: CRA loan default rates - loads of articles.
The problem wasn't the government. The problem was good old fashioned greed. As soon as work of the mortgage and credit derivative markets got out and that they would buy, quite literally, any old mortgage paper, especially given the first rounds of sub-prime were working so well, then it was open season on the insane, enormous, no-income, no-ID loans that became popular.
Although, when I say the problem wasn't the government. I'm actually wrong. The problem was the government only started to care about this when the Top 5 Banks started playing chicken with each other over liquidity in late 2007/early 2008 - where, for example, Morgan Stanley would start making cash calls on Lehmans pretty much to see if they'd blink.
What turns my stomach is that nobody is serving time for this.
<i>when the govt. does stoopid stuff to manipulate away from the economics it doesn't like (i.e. requiring mortgage lenders to make bad loans while promising to whitewash them through a federal mortgage bank) and the mortgage banks make billions writing high-risk loans and dumping the risk on the govt. (Countrywide anyone), and then Wall Street builds complicated derivative instruments tied to the generally low-risk investment in home-mortgages (which are very reliable when you require a significant downpayment AND proof of income - which went away in the 90's to make home ownership a dream-come-true for people that couldn't afford to buy homes.....</i>
This one was from a self professed libetarian on a thread on Charlie Stross's blog. The problem with this argument, and my goodness it's pernicious and sticks around is that it's almost 100% wrong in every detail.
They're referring to the CRA loans which were designed to help out people on lower incomes than would otherwise normally get a loan, and those, potentially with spottier credit. This was a big part of Conservative thinking for a while, especially in the UK. Get the poor to buy their home and they'll vote for you. Margaret Thatcher, that great liberal softy, was very big on this.
Anyway, apart from the racist sub-text - the poor people often being non-white, there's a problem with this theory. The CRA loans represented at most about 20% of the total mortgage bundles that got into trouble. And second, the actual, regulated CRA loans didn't get into trouble at all. In fact they generally have a better repayment rate than the already low default rate of the traditional market. You don't believe me? Google: CRA loan default rates - loads of articles.
The problem wasn't the government. The problem was good old fashioned greed. As soon as work of the mortgage and credit derivative markets got out and that they would buy, quite literally, any old mortgage paper, especially given the first rounds of sub-prime were working so well, then it was open season on the insane, enormous, no-income, no-ID loans that became popular.
Although, when I say the problem wasn't the government. I'm actually wrong. The problem was the government only started to care about this when the Top 5 Banks started playing chicken with each other over liquidity in late 2007/early 2008 - where, for example, Morgan Stanley would start making cash calls on Lehmans pretty much to see if they'd blink.
What turns my stomach is that nobody is serving time for this.