Worth repeating...
Sep. 2nd, 2013 06:03 pmFrom
celestialweasel, something said by
pmcray: "fandom is full of people very ready to take offence and people very ready to give offence.", and to quote the Weasel, "I like to imagine it as a sort of version of the Escher stairs with everyone going round in circles looking down at everyone else."
What to say from the last few days?
1. Nick Mamantis seems to have got bent out of shape over what I assume was a gag. Even if it wasn't a gag, it was amusing. I might just have a very sick sense of humour
2. Redshirts won the Hugo as I suspected. His cabal of highly trained attack blogfans managed to not only get themselves eligable to vote for the Hugo nominations but spend money so that he could win the Hugo... the man's perfidy knows no depths!
3. Jay Lake didn't win the Hugo, which is a damn shame
4. Doctor Who didn't win the Doctor Who Hugo - which again just goes to show how inept the Hugo voting committee are at keeping up appearances
5. Finally, Helsinki lost.
I'm a bit bummed by Helsinki losing. The Worldcon has been unusually worldly recently and I think that's rather a good thing. While I've heard complaints that the driving force behind the bid has a poor reputation for starting things and not finishing them, which may or may not be true, I don't know enough to say, I don't think that was the reason that the bid lost.
I got the distinct impression that there was a group of people who felt that Finland would be too hard to get to and full of foreign types who voted 'safe'. Safe in this case being somewhere fairly remote, and while I can get to Spokane reasonably easily, if a 5/6 hour drive through the desert is easy, a lot of people are going to be sitting at home in Chumley St Margarets wondering where in the bloody hell Spokane is.
But wait, there's more. I'm loosely part of Seattle fandom and I don't know anybody driving the bid, the few people I vaguely know from the problems we had with the program at Chicon worry me because things failed to come together well and needed external help. This would be something vague I couldn't put my finger on if the convention website hadn't happened.
I am aghast that in 2013, a winning bid isn't ready to go with it's website the moment they make their announcement. They took several hours to even get the GoH stuff up there, and none of the content from the bid site has been carried over. Even now, late Monday, that there's still a placeholder there that isn't remotely a convention up. I'll be looking with interest to see when they get that up. But it's suggestive to me that there are going to be organizational problems that could make for a tricky con.
That said, I'll probably go.
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What to say from the last few days?
1. Nick Mamantis seems to have got bent out of shape over what I assume was a gag. Even if it wasn't a gag, it was amusing. I might just have a very sick sense of humour
2. Redshirts won the Hugo as I suspected. His cabal of highly trained attack blogfans managed to not only get themselves eligable to vote for the Hugo nominations but spend money so that he could win the Hugo... the man's perfidy knows no depths!
3. Jay Lake didn't win the Hugo, which is a damn shame
4. Doctor Who didn't win the Doctor Who Hugo - which again just goes to show how inept the Hugo voting committee are at keeping up appearances
5. Finally, Helsinki lost.
I'm a bit bummed by Helsinki losing. The Worldcon has been unusually worldly recently and I think that's rather a good thing. While I've heard complaints that the driving force behind the bid has a poor reputation for starting things and not finishing them, which may or may not be true, I don't know enough to say, I don't think that was the reason that the bid lost.
I got the distinct impression that there was a group of people who felt that Finland would be too hard to get to and full of foreign types who voted 'safe'. Safe in this case being somewhere fairly remote, and while I can get to Spokane reasonably easily, if a 5/6 hour drive through the desert is easy, a lot of people are going to be sitting at home in Chumley St Margarets wondering where in the bloody hell Spokane is.
But wait, there's more. I'm loosely part of Seattle fandom and I don't know anybody driving the bid, the few people I vaguely know from the problems we had with the program at Chicon worry me because things failed to come together well and needed external help. This would be something vague I couldn't put my finger on if the convention website hadn't happened.
I am aghast that in 2013, a winning bid isn't ready to go with it's website the moment they make their announcement. They took several hours to even get the GoH stuff up there, and none of the content from the bid site has been carried over. Even now, late Monday, that there's still a placeholder there that isn't remotely a convention up. I'll be looking with interest to see when they get that up. But it's suggestive to me that there are going to be organizational problems that could make for a tricky con.
That said, I'll probably go.