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So let me get this straight, John C Wright had the shear rank audacity to pen this:


Meanwhile, giants in the field, men such as Terry Pratchett, may he rest in peace, of Jim Butcher, long may his pen unleash the wild magic, go unnoticed and scorned

Ignoring for a moment that Jim Bitcher isn't really a giant in the field and that Terry Pratchett wasn't scorned,when he was the same person who wrote this steaming crap?

http://www.scifiwright.com/2011/10/the-watchtowers-of-atlantis-tremble/

"So I felt, listening to the sweet applause my fellow men gave to a vile crime, adoring it: and they saluted suicide and called it a civil right, and called brave the procurer pimping for the cause of suicide.

On the day I heard the genial writer speak, and urge the earth toward euthanasia, and heard the room applaud, on that day I felt the world slide downward an inch toward the eager fires below. One more inch."

What a turd.

Date: 2015-04-07 09:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
Also, Terry WAS offered the Hugo nomination for Best Novel on at least one occasion: he turned it down because he found waiting in the audience for the announcement too stressful, and he didn't need the anxiety (he had angina back then).

He was #5 in the nominee ranking. I was #6. I know this happened because I ended up with his stress (and I lost, too) and I personally asked him about this afterwards.

JCW really is a special piece of work.

Date: 2015-04-07 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daveon.livejournal.com
Well, yes, indeed.

He is a special kind of person isn't he?

Date: 2015-04-08 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kevin-standlee.livejournal.com
Charlie:

I used the case of you and Terry as a counter-example to one of the people asking me if the correlation between number of nominations received wasn't the sign of the Sekrit Slate. I said that if you sift enough numbers, you'll eventually find correlations. As it happens, the numbers on the 2005 ballot were close enough to play these sort of games. I concluded that the Sekrit Slate ordered Terry to withdraw so that the Orbit Drones could get a pair of works on the ballot, but one of the Orbit Drones didn't get the memo and forgot to vote. I haven't heard a response yet.

To be fair, the SP are not a bunch of drones marching in lockstep. Many of them believe passionately in what they're voting for. I expect that many of them have swallowed the line about Sekrit Voting Slate Orders from the Evil Scali or the Evil Tor or the Evil Stross or whatever. If I can sow a little doubt in the minds of any of them that haven't completely drank the Kool-Aid, I'll feel it was worthwhile.

Date: 2015-04-08 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pauldormer.livejournal.com
The occasion I know of Terry withdrawing was when I was administrator in 2005. Going Postal was number 3 and his dropping out brought in The Algebraist by Iain Banks. (The Family Trade was at 12 and The Atrocity Archives at 17. I still have the counting stats on my computer.)

As it happened, when I'd processed all the nominations, it was decided to contact all the best novel finalists first and I was given the e-mails of all five. Terry responded almost by return of post.

Date: 2015-04-08 05:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] soon_lee
Thank you for putting the two comments together. I thought I saw it too but my Google-fu was failing.

Date: 2015-04-08 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mevennen.livejournal.com
I hadn't noticed that Jim Butcher was 'scorned,' exactly.

I class Wright in my mind - or 'classed' - along with a number of people whom I reviewed for IZ in the 90s. It was his first novel - some good, big ideas, but overly ornate prose and very slowly paced. I was, however, pleased to see that he was getting published again, but disconcerted to note that he seems to have turned into some kind of religious maniac with some very weird, aggressive pronouncements.

Shortly, I shall be announcing my adoption of the concept of the 'asshole line' on FB: someone may be a fabulous writer, but if they're a shit in person, falling beyond the asshole line, I reserve the right to discard them from my reading consideration. I'm under no obligation, unless on an award jury, to read anyone else's work, and life is too short. Since this is purely personal, it will also be inconsistent: MZB is still on the list, despite approaching the farthest limits beyond the line (if she was alive, I would stop reading her and state why publically). Theodore Beale, John Wright and Benjanun Sriduangkaew are visible beyond the line with a good pair of binoculars, but definitely in the uncharted wastes. I won't be wasting my time with any of them.

Date: 2015-04-08 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] landsmand.livejournal.com
I'm gathering that fans of speculative fiction are having some sort of internecine spat?

Shit, I always miss this kind of thing, I just read the stuff, me.

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